Yep, from what I remember, house peaked out in 1998/99 or so, with the Mother Raves and all that. It's been on decline ever since.

I no hard house has pretty much died out here,but it would still be cool 2 have at least 1 or 2 clubs around that still played hard house.As regards 2 what Shan says about international DJ's playing at 330.Just last year Several big name Dj's played at 330.
1 - Cosmic Gate played there in September.
2 - Judge Jules played there in December.
3 - The Organ Doners played sumtime earlier last year.
4 - cant remeber the Dj's name,but he is Japans no.1 DJ also played there last year.
And that just naming a few of the more famous Dj's..
So it wasnt that long ago that a big name DJ played there.
330 had the hard scene going strong untill they where forced 2 move due 2 the land lords decision 2 double the rent.
Yes its true that Hard House peaked in the 90's but that doesnt mean it cant make a come back.
In my opinion the hard house scene is dieing out, but can still be bought back,with the help of sum events every now and then....And of course building more world class venues here will help alot.Just look at the sucess of 330,
Rated in the top 10 clubs in the world
it was also the loudest club in the southern hemesphere
and is in the gueness book of record for 'club that has stayed in the same venue 4 the longest'.
And played host 2 the worlds best Dj's
So you can imagen what sucess we could have if we had several clubs that played hard house.I think u would be surprised.....

Argh! Please don't hit me angry man!

You cant deny how cool the first party at the Willowvale Hotel was. Well, after that Im really surprised at how empty the last Trip Hazard party was. Its shocking to see an event like that fly by unnoticed. Dont worry guys, at least I'll be at the next one!

First party there was awesome - because of several things...it was a Rustpunk party and they worked damn hard promoting it. The Wild Eyes were also a big drawcard.
As for Triphazard, they use sms and emails to promote the parties but ive yet to see flyers / posters / any print media advertising. And you would think if they could bring out international djs theyd have some kind of budget to get the word out!

Ya,like i said.If they just advertised properly.They would see alot more success.Think about it.90.percent of the time you find out about an event by seeing it on flyers/posters and so on.So i cant see why they dont.

I saw more flyers for that party than all the rest of them! They were all over the uprising festival, where hundreds would have been reached, I saw posters at Vestige, and they have a database that they sms. It was emailed too. If you think back, how was the rustpunk party better promoted? Anyway, I just want another big one with ALOT more people. What are your suggestions of getting the crowd there?

Ya,i also want another big 1.I sapose the only way to get more people there other than the tipical flyers and posters which must be put in all the right places, is to get advertised on TV and the radio most importantley,Coz if you think about all the events in the past that had big turn outs,they where all advertised on TV and radio.Thats the only thing i can think of doing 2 up the crowds.Coz without them,these events are destined 2 die out.

I think TV is a bit expensive, but radio maybe an option!

I can understand the Rustpunk party being busier - The Wild Eyes are quite well known, and you'll probably find Rustpunk has a much more dedicated fan base. This makes a big difference, cause people often support events when they know the DJ's that are playing.

Yes,i agree.....

Yo i understand what you are saying,another problem is that the dance music scene doesnt get much publicity.Like that event u just spoke about,i never heard of untill now.4 sum reason DJ'S dont get any recognition,but if ur f***in name is Robbie Williams then ur talked about all over the radio and TV.Pathetic......

dont moan about people not going when people are not clearly and definitively informed. we cant suck information out of thin air. in london events are very well advertised, the same for cape town and other cities. in durban events pr is almost non existant and that blame should be directly aimed at crap, unprofessional promoters.

Well thats exactley what we are saying.In london they advertise well and here they dont.And if i could complain directley to our 'crap,unprofessional promoters' then i would.

It would be comforting to know that it was, in fact, simply a case of bad promotion, and not a lack of interest from those who were informed. That's my real beef, people who do know but dont feel like coming. It would be nice to know that there are people waiting in anxiety for parties, because then its a case of contacting these promoters and suggesting new ways to distribute info. Ultimately we all just want big parties!

Ya,i guess the only way 2 find out, is to make sure that the events are well advertised,then if the turn out is still poor,then we no people just arent interested,and the promoters are not 2 blame.but i doubt thats what is happening,coz judging from other events that have gone by recently,the ones that where well advertised got good turn outs and the events that where poorly advertised got bad turn outs,as im sure uv noticed.
But yes 'Ultimately we all just want big parties!'
Thats 4 sure.....

Well, this is not entirely true either. When Carl Cox (i think it was him, it was one of the big names) came to 330 recently, there were billboards everywhere! It was on the radio, everything. And the party was well attended.

Yes,that is true.That was Judge Jules,there where billboards all over the place,I remember now.That is why 330 had better turn outs than most other places 4 there big events,coz when they had an event,they tried there best 2 advertise the DJ that was coming.If other places did the same, then im sure they would have simaler success.

Judge Jules... that was it.

Yip,did u go check it out, 330 was very fill that night,But not as fill as there closing down party,i couldnt even move,was insane.Got sum vidoe footage of that night.If u want it,i can send it 2 u sumtime.

Yeah I was there, only went cause I got freebies from someone who didn't need them! Went in for like an hour, decided it was TOO full and then left.

Send me the footage! As long as it's less than 10 megs.

Cool,I just lv getting free entrance 2 clubs.It sure beats paying like R.50 ,sumtimes more, 2 go stand in a club thats so fill u cant even move in.

Sori dude,the footage is about 100.megs.Got a new phone with a 1.gig memory card in it,so i went mad that night taking vids.

I was there for 330's closing night and ohh my word . U cant even describe it .

Any way Clubs like 330 are too few here in Durban or should I say non-existant . Firstly clubs are getting boring here and this needs to change .

When Big Events Happen Here In SA they would rather go to jo's or capetown and hense another Majour factor for the why bother attitude that is taken by the organisers when it comes to advertising .

Also Ppl are not on the look out for Adverts half the tym because they dont expect anything will be happening here .

Hey dude, welcome, ya it's an interesting one. Some people believe that house is dead/dying, and not worth it (there are bigger and better things), but then some people here want to see it revived! Supply and demand. If enough people still enjoy the music, then another club will open up.

Capdog - U are so right .
we'll just have to c if and when another club opens .

I personaly love almost all music and so am still content with the clubs that are around at the momment . I think that the current clubs should be encouraged to play alot more House or even have House nyts every so often - almost like an event .

That might help to encourage ppl to request house .

If House is dying/dead then it becuase its been religated to the back of the popular pile .

Ya,i agree.I think club should have nights dedicated 2 diffents types of music,that way more people will come 2 like that type of music which should lead to other clubs opening up.I think that soon sum1 will open up a club that plays house music,and take advantage of the closing of 330.Coz if sum1 opens up a house club now,it will attract all those patrons that went 2 330, since there is no other places currentley playing that music.

Pretty good idea,i think.

Hi there every1.Good news for all us house listeners.As i thought would happen is true, club 330 which recently closed down is 2 reopen sumwhere around new year.So look forward 2 this 1.It will be good.

Below is a part of the article,which was written just b4 330's closing night.

'Without a doubt, 330 is the longest running dance club in South Africa. That legendary run is now coming to an end. Just as End street in Joburg is now quiet, so too will 330 Point Road Durban. But... never fear, it will reopen. It's always a sad day, but at the same time it injects a freshness into the club, a new start, bigger, better things. They had no choice really. The tosser landlord decided to up the rent 100%. The last blast will be on the 12 August, so you better be there. In the meantime, Martin is looking for new premises and they will s till be having events up until the end of the year at different venues. By New Year new premises will hopefully be good to go. So, you have plans on 29 July 2006 for the 330 18 th Birthday (it's been that long!). Don't forget - 12 August is the official closing event - NO closing time (may even rock the roof off for 24 hours.) '

Ill be sure 2 let every1 now the exact date,when i find out.

one of the reasons why those posters workd is becos 330 is a recognized and consistent brand. when you see a flyer with the 330 logo, there some definites. electronic music, Good sound, staircases that get you lost and found. you know what the beer prices are. you know that you may bump into that gorgeous girl with the eyes that send you fluttering. you know where to park, you know you mite see old mates.

it comes back to the concept that a brand has values and distinctive aspects to the public's understanding of it. if this understanding remains within the people that have already experienced the brand, then it is unlikely to spread quickly.

if promoters tried inventiv techniques like sharing databases, that might help.

and if the informal community communicated more, that cud help too.

science is not the way
we need to talk about it>>

Howdy, good point... you must be in marketing then? :)

Good point,I think that people recognise a brand and stick 2 it,which is why 330 did so well.Other clubs need 2 find new ways of attracting people 2 there club.They should take pointers from places that have succeeded andtry copy the way that they advertised and such...

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I'm a promoter. I've been involved in a few gigs in Durban. Out of maybe twenty in the last 5 years I can honestly say that perhaps five made it worthwhile, in terms of support - and these were all gigs that got good media, with posters on poles, flyers in all the right places. Flux, Scar, Frequency, NONONO and all the others were tight gigs, featuring the best our country has to offer of a wide variety of music. Top-class sound systems, decent decor and a concerted effort to bring culture to the masses were a feature of all. So why weren't they all a success? Because people are sheep - when a cloud appears they go 'Aww, it's kak weather, I wanna stay home and chill' or else they bitch at the price ('Thirty bucks!!! Jeez, that's soo expensive!!') or else they're such fucking sheep that if the crowd isn't going, then they're not going ('Aww, nobody knows about it, there'll be no-one there..'). And then half-naai has-beens play to capacity crowds at stadium gigs...
People are ungulates, folks, and they don't necessarily value culture as much as you or I.
Wouldn't piss in their eyes if their brains were on fire.
As you can tell, I feel strongly about this.
Maybe it's cos I lost a lot of cash, trying to educate Philistines.

The force is strong with this one...

You're right, but there's more to it from a spectator's point of view:

1) Durbanites are spoiled for choice - the supply of cool nighttime stuff to do far exceeds the demand.

2) Birthdays, weddings, rugby, dvd's with a chick, dinner, local pub for a quiet one... etc... people miss loads of events because they have other priority commitments on the night, it's not always the weather.

3) Daytime events... surfing at the crack of dawn requires that you go to bed at a reasonable hour.

4) Weekends away. We all go camping in the berg, up and down the coast... so yeah I get what you are saying, organisers are frustrated but it's the nature of the business in this city.