Home
 
User login

Who's online
There are currently 0 users and 4 guests online.

Videos

All our videos go up on the Durban Scouts YouTube channel, check it out:




Sponsored Links


An Idiot's Guide To Handing Out Flyers

An Idiot's Guide To Handing Out Flyers
Submitted by yusuf on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 09:05

If you’re in a band and you’ve walked the streets with a stack of flyers for your next show weighing you down, then you’ve no doubt felt the exact same pain, frustration, disbelief and indignation that I’m feeling right now. What’s wrong with people? Why is everyone so pathetic and disinterested? You’d think that I was trying to sell time share, life insurance or those deaf people’s cards that you HAVE to pay for instead of just trying to promote good local music.

This time the show in question is an all ages, strictly no drugs or alcohol show at the Pavilion skate-park. The show features us, two other Durban bands and an out of town band from Pretoria. So, I woke up earlier than usual, packed the car full of flyers and posters, hopped in and off I went. As it was not my first flyer mission I kind of knew what lay in store for me. I was expecting my fair share of upturned noses and vacuous, uncaring stares, but I had a good feeling about this one. The flyers were fancy, there was an out of town band on the line up (that’s a big deal to Durban audiences) and the show was AT the Pavilion, which meant that I wouldn’t have any problems getting posters put up around the centre and that I wouldn’t have to avoid any truncheon wielding security guards. Or so I thought.

My first stop was my local pub, Chiltern Park. Chiltern’s a great way to start any flyer mission. I know it may sound a bit Cheers and ‘Where everybody knows your name’, but the owner Brad always greets me with a smile and replies, “Yeah, put them wherever you want pop star", when I ask him if I can put up a poster or dump some flyers. After Chiltern everywhere else is depressing for the ‘flyer merchant’.

The only places that are likely to accept flyers are; personally owned businesses, like bottle stores, pubs and tea rooms or shops that think it’s cool to have flyers advertising shows, like skate shops or Idols. Stay away from all franchises, especially petrol stations at all costs. They REALLY don’t care at all. You’d think that, seeing as how these places are all in public and have blank, empty walls that get looked at all the time, that a designated ‘notice’ area for local events might not seem that out of the question. Most peoples replies are that they make the place look untidy, but that’s a brush off if I’ve ever heard one. You should see how neatly I can stack a pile of flyers on the counter or Prestik a poster to the wall, it’s not hard.

After Chiltern, I went to the local tea room, whose owner, I noticed, is giving my requests for flyer space a fair bit more consideration these days. I’m sure that it’s not going to be long until he starts turning me down. That’s usually how it goes, people ‘put up’ with and tolerate it for a while. Then it seems to become irritating. The local bottle store, as always, was a pleasure. Even though the poster says ‘Strictly no alcohol or drugs’. Next stop, the Pavilion.

Once inside, I walked straight to the Management office with a small sense of pride. I know it sounds lame, but I thought that it would be cool to see a poster with my bands name on it on one of the main notice boards that are all over the Pavilion. That’s how it works, people need to see a poster like that, that they don’t have to dig to find, to take you seriously and not see you as just over eager hobbyists.

I couldn’t believe it when the woman behind the desk told me that she couldn’t put up our posters because they’re not for a ‘Pavilion event’. “But the show’s at the Pavilion", I pleaded. “Sorry, you can leave the small ones at the info booth". Fat lot of help that’s going to do, how many people likely to come to a punk show at the Pavilion skate park are going to stop at the info booth? I didn’t even know where it was.

Next I got turned down by Musica. Musica??!!!? Aren’t they a music shop? Isn’t their slogan ‘Listen With Your Soul’? The guy at the counter wasn’t even listening with his ears when I tried to explain that the poster is simply advertising a local show, at the very same centre that his shop’s in, and not some kind of rival CD sales. I just wanted to put a neat stack of flyers on the counter or something. It seems to me that Musica would be just as happy if there were no local bands, just people like ‘Fiddy’ Cent and Kanye West that they can really get behind, promote and sell. Look & Listen’s attitude has changed quite a bit recently as well, when faced with requested poster space by an unsigned band. They’ve got a listening station table where you can dump flyers, but nowadays it’s out of the way around the corner and would only get seen by people that are actually listening to a CD. A bit impractical if you ask me (not that anyone is). The clerk took my poster with a sense of disdain and said that she’d have to run it by the manager first. I’ll go back and look for it soon.

After that I’d had enough of the Pavilion. Just before I left though, I walked by a few guys wearing skate shoes and baggy pants. One had a Mohawk so I approached them and offered them some flyers, “There’s a cool punk show happening here", I said, “Come check it out". They stared straight at me and walked straight by into Y.D.E, as if their hands were too good for my flyers. That’s the worst kind of brush off, the personal one. Look, I know people get a few flyers trying to sell them stuff at traffic lights, but surely they can tell the difference when it’s just an honest guy trying to get the word out about a show? It’s not like I was wearing a Trellidor or Nokia shirt or something.

That was it. I was SO over the Pavilion. As I was leaving, I remembered something Brad had told me at Chiltern earlier. He said that his younger brother and all his friends liked Punk, Emo, watching bands and just music in general. He said that they all hang out at the local Baptist Church and that seeing as how this was an all ages, strictly no drugs or alcohol show, just down the road that they might let me put a poster up on the church’s notice-board. A great idea in theory, everyone wins. The local kids that are usually too young to watch any live music get to go to a show and we get lots of new faces in the crowd.

The car I parked next to had band and skate stickers on the bumper, so it looked like the right place. It’s not often that I really go to any kind of religious sanctuary, like a church. So, walking in I was a bit nervous. I saw a sign that said office and a friendly looking guy with no shoes on. I asked him if I could put up one of the tiny posters on the notice-board. I explained that it was an all ages show and that it was happening just down the road. “Sorry we can’t advertise anything that’s not church related. If we did we wouldn’t know where to draw the line". Hmm, surely a call like that’s not too difficult. Let give the honest musician that’s just trying to let the locals know that there’s a show going down in town some time, but don’t let say, Coke or KFC advertise their latest specials.

Where have all the Community notice boards gone? I prestiked a small poster up on a blank notice board at another local mall and had it ripped down by the same security guard that just stared blankly at the BMW 4 X 4 parked in the disabled parking space. People just aren’t interested. For some reason when you explain that you’re in a band and playing a show in town you expect them to kind of get behind that and respond with a vague sense of loyalty or pride. Or at least not treat us the same as a Blockbuster Videos flyer dispenser handing out flyers in a Mr. Video, video store.

Most people don’t want to advertise anything that’s ‘for sale’ anywhere else. This new kind of fervent defence for your own retail space and rigid rules and restrictions imposed when receiving flyers is a fairly new development. People, in general, used to be a lot more receptive to the idea. There was a time when you could advertise your show, no matter where the venue was, on the corner of Clark road and Umbilo road, one of the only meeting places for the Durban alternative music scene. Nowadays, flyers handed out in and around that area HAVE to be for either Burn or The Winston. Even if you just want to put them on the windscreens of cars that are parked in the road. Times have changed. By the end here, it feels kind of like I’m losing the plot a bit and that this is turning into an unfocused, whiny rant, but I’ve been burnt so many times on well intentioned flyer missions and wanted to write something like this every time and haven’t. Maybe I’m not totally alone though. When I talked to some older people about my frustrations, they replied, “The local Spar used to have such a big notice board by the entrance. Now, they only use it to advertise Spar products". That’s that then, over and done.




Subject: 
Yeah we all know the
capdog's picture
Author: 
capdog
Date: 
14 March, 2006 - 09:44

Yeah we all know the situation outside Burn is bullshit. The logic there has fallen on deaf ears.

What about standing outside schools, like Westville Boys and Girls High and giving the flyers direct to the kids? May be worth a shot.


[ reply ]

Subject: 
FLYERS
Author: 
Tammy
Date: 
14 March, 2006 - 14:07

Definetly recommend standing outside schools, we always had people standing outside PGHS handing out flyers on bands and what not! one successful way!


[ reply ]

Subject: 
I could always hand out
pixie84's picture
Author: 
pixie84
Date: 
14 March, 2006 - 14:30

I could always hand out flyers at varsity, they're forever handing out flyers here too!!!


[ reply ]

Subject: 
Dude, Dude, Dude... Let me
Dopescape's picture
Author: 
Dopescape
Date: 
15 March, 2006 - 14:32

Dude, Dude, Dude... Let me tell you... and ask capdog if you want, I worked at the Pav and I organized a small concert at the Firkin on the roof top. I had sponsorship from SAB, The Daily News and BAT. The Pav would not allow me to put up posters there either, yet on the night, the whole management team were there boozing it up, like they had never been to a bar before. The effort I had to go through to make that evening happen was HUGE, but the hassle was not worth it. I agree times have changed, for example... Burn was then owned by Jamie, he allowed me to put up posters and flyers in his club 3 weeks in advance as long as he was on the VIP list, but the Pav would not let me advertise there. Not even flyers on the cars (bunch of assholes). Its give and take and things always evolve and nothing ever stays the same that is a fact. Give up the flyer and poster route, it's a waste of time. Put up in the venue you are playing and that is that. Build up an sms and e-mail database and the most powerful tool of all.... word of mouth. I am not trying to sound like a bitch, but I have 10 years experience of promoting the bands I play in and I can tell you now the poster and flyer route are a total waste of time. I agree there are very few people that give a shit about Durban bands, but its up to you to change there perceptions in a positive way. Example... I played in Sutherland a few years ago the scene was even worse then, the band had a chat to see what we could do to promote it. We came up with the idea of going to Westville Boys' rock club and talking to the guys at break time, with their teacher present, about our new EP that was coming out. Low and behold at our next gig 10 of them rocked up. For 2 reasons, firstly because we sat and spoke to these guys on a personal level at the school, and secondly when we were there we collected their details. And 8 of those guys still come to our gigs. I sms you about all our gigs am I right? Where did i get your number? At the battle of the bands! How many times have I received an sms from you for a gig... 0. You might not like my band, and never come to our shows, but I still make that effort to sms you. I really find most of your articles very interesting and a good read, but sometimes you complain too much about the scene, it's never going to change. Make it happen dude its up to you to change peoples mind about your band, and you can only do this buy being positive, stick to your guns,and finding innovative ways of promoting your band, And when some things fail, try a new approach.


[ reply ]

Subject: 
Yeah I remember that
capdog's picture
Author: 
capdog
Date: 
15 March, 2006 - 14:47

Yeah I remember that concert, it was awesome.

I agree with most of what you say, although I don't think that you can rely on word-of-mouth or sms'ing to get NEW people to gigs. Flyers and posters are at least semi-useful in attracting people that you'd never come in contact with otherwise. Especially young-ins who have nowhere else to go and spend their cash..

And as for bitching about the scene, I think this is necessary. Make as much noise about it as possible! Otherwise those that aren't in the know will never realise what the problems are that face bands in Durban, and why there seems to be such limited options and opportunities.


[ reply ]

Subject: 
I'm sorry, but people in
Dopescape's picture
Author: 
Dopescape
Date: 
15 March, 2006 - 17:12

I'm sorry, but people in this country are sheep and if you moan and groan the whole time people see that as negative. Then why should they support bands, create some thing positive and you stand a better chance of people wanting to be involved. Bands around the world have the same shit as us, and if you don't believe me start checking out the over seas fourms. Any way my ideas are tryed and tested, and every one has to learn the hard way.


[ reply ]

Subject: 
You're right
yusuf's picture
Author: 
yusuf
Date: 
16 March, 2006 - 22:21

You’re totally right, flyers are old school and painful, but I don’t think giving up on them completely is the answer. I’ve seen flyers work, you just have to bite your tongue (although with this story my teeth kind of missed) and keep on walking. Sibling Rivalry are the flyer kings, I’ve seen them stand at traffic lights in funny costumes, superglue flyers to walls and even stick Uprisings 2006 flyers on electricity boxes, over uprisings 2005 flyers, that are covering 2004 uprisings flyers. An SMS/email database is the way you’re right but for maximum effect it could be combined with flyers, newspaper gig guides, radio gig guides and so on. The local paper, The Highway Mail, was mellow enough to advertise the show and straight away I got SMS’s saying, “saw you guys in the highway mail


[ reply ]

Subject: 
Yep, use all those mediums
Dopescape's picture
Author: 
Dopescape
Date: 
17 March, 2006 - 10:23

Yep, use all those mediums availible and you can't go wrong at least you know in your heart that you promote your shows 200% and that hard work like that just has to pay off some time its the law of averages.


[ reply ]

Subject: 
For the dogs...
one track mike's picture
Author: 
one track mike
Date: 
30 March, 2007 - 11:54

I may not be in a band but i do promote electronic events which could be considered the 'underdog' as they are everything BUT the CHEESE ! And from my experience you cannot rule anything out - you GOTTA do it ALL ... and that also means putting in the extra budget for full-colour flyers & heavier paper - this has a strong psycholigical influence on people. Marketing is key.
Sms and e-mail data from people collected at your events will always be your biggest tool, but another good tactic is to give comps to people that would not ordinarily come. I know this is unlikely in the band scene but sometimes i go to modelling agencies and give comps to them - you get a bunch of pretty girls at one of your gigs and BELIEVE - it won't go un-noticed.
But at the end of the day - it's a dog's job - i hate doing it as it is quite degrading having to lurk the streets hitting up cars and people with flyers. It's also something i generally do myself as i feel the carguards don't do it to my satisfaction.
Brand association is also vital. If your band/event takes place in a stylish place with perhaps a stylish sponsor on board, it says a lot about your product.
At the end of the day you will always only have your regulars when using the same old grungy venues - and i know this for sure!

"desperately seeking meaningful overnight relationship.."


[ reply ]

Subject: 
Trudat...
Author: 
hedmekanik
Date: 
30 March, 2007 - 13:06

One Track he speak no lie - it's a mug's game, putting flyers on cars...especially when it's raining, and then you know that people aren't gonna be happy about this pulp that looks like some jol-hadeda voided onto their precious cabbie. Thankless task, I tellya. It's so much easier to do it all from the comfort of your computer or cellphone, just press send and tadaa, it's done. But then you can't rule out flyers completely, people like to have an article in their hands, it does have an important psychological effect.


[ reply ]

Sponsored Links


Poll

Recent comments

Upcoming events
  • No upcoming events available.

Links

Decay Clothing - rad locally designed gear.

Kablooey Studios! - for websites, graphics, media and animation!



 

The Copyright to all content on these pages is held by the respective authors.